Typing tips

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languidness
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Re: Typing tips

Post by languidness » Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:46 am

toddhicks209 wrote:45-50 wpm


That isn't slow by any means, and it'd be completely ignorant of me to suggest that you need to be an extremely fast typist to give sound advice. I would, however, like to suggest that you consider the advantages of simplicity and familiarity over those of a possibly more efficient, but more complex system of typing.

If it gives me any credibility in your eyes, here's my profile: http://10fastfingers.com/user/638062/

toddhicks209
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Re: Typing tips

Post by toddhicks209 » Fri Jul 31, 2015 7:53 am

I'm just trying to give you tips that can make you better. You may not be comfortable trying them at first but it can pay off. Besides, it's really not hard to follow my system.
Todd Hicks provides tips on typing. http://sdinst.blogspot.com

DeRoche
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Re: Typing tips

Post by DeRoche » Fri Aug 07, 2015 3:44 am

I've recently found my speed and accuracy increases when I push my wrists into the table rather than elevating them. However, this is a good way to develop carpal tunnel syndrome, so I don't suggest this for anyone who has a job requiring lots of typing, or anyone who needs to type for long periods of time.

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Re: Typing tips

Post by toddhicks209 » Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:48 am

I think it's best to have your wrists and elbows elevated just slightly above the table.
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Re: Typing tips

Post by toddhicks209 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:09 am

To hit the backspace key to correct an error, stretch your pinky finger to hit it while keeping your hands on the keyboard and to type a hyphen, stretch your 4th finger to hit the hyphen key while keeping your hands in place. Type: ill-advised
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Sturm
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Re: Typing tips

Post by Sturm » Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:28 am

to DeRouche

Hello. I have read your tips but I have a few questions for you.

1. Do you have qwerty layout? If yes then

2. How do you place your fingers? Is it the traditional home row asdf jkl; and you press each key with its corresponding finger or do you alternate fingers for different keys like Sean Wrona does?

3. When you say to "relax fingers while typing", how much relaxed they should be? And when you say "try to type as fast as possible" wouldn't that tense up your fingers and wrists and thus slow you down? I find this contradicting to your previous statement and at this point I am confused as to what to do.

4. Do you smash your fingers into the keyboard (bottom them out) or do you exert just enough pressure to actuate the key?

5. Do you use a mechanical keyboard?

6. Do you think focusing on accuracy will increase typind speed? Because I found myself typing more accurately doing that (obviously) but speed increase has been minor (+ 5 wpm)

The reason I am asking this is because I am having extreme difficulty increasing my average typing speed from 105 wpm to anything higher than that for the past 3 months. Before that I have started with the average 30 wpm and got to the current speed in about 4 months. I know that some people type slower than me, but I want to type even faster than what I can right now, not for bragging, but just for my convenience, especially when others can type so much faster than me.

I have reached the plateau and I have tried several different things, such as typing exercises from different websites(typeracer, keyonfire, keyhero, ratatype, 10fastfingers, typing aoeu, keybr) focusing on typing out difficult words faster, isolating movements and exercising my finger strength but it seems all of that has no effect whatsoever. All of this coined with posts from 13 year-old idiots asking on forums "I am typing over 9000 wpm am I too slow for my age group?!?!?" :evil: and just answering to anybody wondering how they type so fast "just practice, noob!" :evil: :evil: :evil: is producing extreme frustration to the point of keyboard destruction, not to mention hours of wasted time on practice every single day.

I hope you understand.

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Re: Typing tips

Post by toddhicks209 » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:27 am

I use a QWERTY keyboard. As for typing fast enough to smash your fingers into the keyboard, you shouldn't do that. You should exert just enough pressure to press the keys. I'm unfamiliar with Sean Wrona. If you really can type 105 wpm, you must be doing everything right.
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VinceMiller
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Re: Typing tips

Post by VinceMiller » Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:36 am

First of all, let me introduce myself, I'm Vincent from Spain, I learned touch typing when I was 8 years old on a typewriter, which was as heavy as me xD. The method I was taught was home row on QWERTY using the Spanish layout, which is pretty much the same as the English layout, obviously there are some minor differences, but it's basically the same. I was taught by a touch typing "teacher" who was well acquainted with the method and knew how to apply it well. After a couple years I was able to type around 65-70 wpm in tests of 5 minutes long. Next year, I was able to get 85-90 wpm in a test of 5 minutes long. Bear in mind, that we had no idea what these texts contained and that we were not familiar with them, each time it was a different text. Once I got my certificate that I was able to type 80 wpm with 0 mistakes during 5 minutes at the age of 10-11, don't remember exactly, I stopped practicing. I never stopped using a computer with its keyboard though, but let's say I was happy with my speed, some of my friends were amazed on how fast I could type without looking at the keyboard, you know, stuff that most of us have experienced every once in a while.

Now, why am I saying all this crap ? Well, the truth is that I started typing again 5 to 6 years ago, obviously my speed and my technique had changed a lot, I was much faster, with an average of 100-110 wpm but with lots of typos. For some reason I no longer used 9 fingers, I used 7, and at the time I was aware of the foundations of the home row method. I "knew" that if I wanted to get better I had to use (again) as many fingers as possible. So I basically retrained myself, obviously losing some speed on the way, so I started typing again with 9 fingers. I was patient I had time and pretty soon I was able to type at the same speed, however, and to my surprise I couldn't be as fast as I thought I would be using all fingers. I felt something was not right and after years of researching, typing, studying my technique, talking and sharing views and thoughts with some other really fast typists in the world, I realized that the home row method is the one that held back my speed and didn't allow me to improve and move forward.

Home row is a nice standard method that gives everyone with minimum typing skills the possibility to enhance and improve their speed and accuracy, however, in terms of fast typing is completely obsolete and even counterproductive. To prove my statement true I will give you an example, let's say I want to type the word "December", toddhicks209's answer would be, "you should hit the "D" key with the left middle finger, then "E" with the left middle finger, then "C" with the left middle finger, then "E" with the left middle finger AGAIN, then "M" with the right index finger, then "B" with the left index finger, then "E" with the left middle finger and finally "R" with the left index finger. The way I would personally type this word would be as follows: "D" left index finger, "E" left middle finger, "C" left index finger, "E" left middle finger, "M" right index finger, "B" left index finger, "E" left middle finger and "R" left index finger.

Home row definitely slows you down in examples like this and the method I've just shown definitely would increase your response time and speed up your keyboarding since there's no waste of motion during transitions from one letter to another. I'm not saying THIS is the way everyone should type this word, obviously other people can use different fingers and still type it even faster, but the most important thing is to waste as less motion as possible in the process and to avoid using the same finger to type same finger letter combinations. Nevertheless, introducing new variables in our technique is tricky, and often difficult since we step out from our comfort zone to go into a stage of difficulty and complication. I personally wouldn't advice everyone to change their technique, if you feel comfortable typing and you are happy with your speed, then there's no need for you to make any changes, however, if you feel like you could be much faster and have the impression that there's something slowing you down, then you may want to make some adjustments.

My best score in 10fastfingers is 197 wpm in the Spanish test, I'm also quite fast in other languages as well. You can check out my profile here http://10fastfingers.com/user/195674/. You can also watch some of the videos I've uploaded in my youtube channel. I participated online in the World Multilingual Typing Championship winning the 3rd place twice (2013-2014), I have the 7th best score ever typing the first 200 digits of the number Pi. I'm not the fastest typist in the world, but I would say I'm a complete typist, I can type numbers, tricky words, symbols and different languages, I can type really fast in short bursts and maintain a decent fast speed during long periods of time. But besides being a fast typist I have lots of experience and practical knowledge on typing.

This being said, I would like now to address toddhicks209. I believe you have good intentions and that when you give advice to somebody on how to "improve" their speed and accuracy you believe you are doing the right thing. It can be some useful advice for people who just started touch typing, but they can be ineffective and as I mentioned above, counterproductive for fast typists. Giving advice to somebody who is really fast and whose technique we know nothing about is rather heedless, unless we have strong grounds and expertise at fast typing to examine critically what’s happening.

The same way, asking the best typists in the world is not always the best option either, since most of them are not aware of the reasons that make them that fast. Take Sean Wrona as an example, he is undoubtedly the fastest and most complete typist in the world yet his understanding and awareness of his own technique and method is scarce.

I’ve seen some people giving really good tips like Deroche and his practice regimes, which he mentions in page 6., I’ll try to give some of mine shortly since I rarely have time or will to do so :roll: , but again different strokes for different folks, cause everyone has their own personal preferences and it may work for you or it may not..
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toddhicks209
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Re: Typing tips

Post by toddhicks209 » Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:11 am

You just wrote a great post.
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VinceMiller
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Re: Typing tips

Post by VinceMiller » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:45 am

toddhicks209 wrote:You just wrote a great post.


well, thank you. I'm glad you liked it :)

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